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Disaboom » Toolbox » ADA Information » Able bodies parking in Handicap stalls

Able bodies parking in Handicap stalls

Last post Tue, Jan 08 2008 1:57 AM by scrappywheels. 9 replies.


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  • rtmike rtmike
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    • Posted: Sun, Oct 07 2007 1:09 PM

    • At the school where I pick my daughter up there's about 5 handicap stalls.  At first there's at least one able bodied Mom picking up her child parked illegally.  Now there's two doing it.  I figure it's monkey see monkey do and before long there won't be any parking available for me and the legitimate folks.  Besides it irritates the hell out of me.  I NEVER did it when I was able bodied.  And to top it off someone got into my car at a show this summer and stole one of my parking passes.  How chicken sh!t is that! 


      Anyhoots, does anyone have a note they've made up for folks doing this? I was hoping someone's been thru this and has some words jotted down I could use.

      I plan to contact the local parking enforcement as well.  There's a couple car's that do nothing but check handicap stall parking.

      Thanks in advance. 

       


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  • 22peapods 22peapods
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    • Posted: Sun, Oct 07 2007 2:20 PM

    • For what it's worth, here are a couple suggestions for cards/notes:
       
      "Parking in a handicapped space (even briefly) without displaying a valid permit is a crime.  Further complaints of this activity will result in a photograph of the illegally-parked vehicle (showing it's license plate) being forwarded to the appropriate law enforcement agency."  --or--
       
      (more simply)  "You have been reported."
       
      rtmike, there's also a website dedicated to reporting handicapped parking violators to the DMV...let me go find it....ok, here it is:  http://www.handicappedfraud.org/
       
      Good luck...

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  • rtmike rtmike
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    • Posted: Sun, Oct 07 2007 2:59 PM

    • Zackly what I was looking for.  THANKS Yes 


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  • Taggie Taggie
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    • Posted: Sun, Oct 07 2007 4:08 PM

    • rtmike,

      i am with you, i never violated the handicapped parking proir to my SCI.  if fact, before my injury i would police this even though i did not know anyone you used the parking. what gets me is that people pull their car into these pots but don't think they are in the wrong because they are still in the car with the motor running.  what they don't realize is that we are driving by looking for a place but no place is available because they are taking up the parkng. if fact, when i am with family or friends and they want to run in to a store, i still won't park there because they don't need it and i am not getting out of the car.

       


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  • Liesl Liesl
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    • Posted: Sat, Oct 13 2007 3:25 PM

    • ACK! I should have read more... I just posted this same topic. Smile


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  • Sexy Silver Fox Sexy Silver Fox
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    • Posted: Tue, Dec 18 2007 6:59 PM

    • Stealing a handicapped parking placare?????????????  How low can you go?

           Calling the parking enforcement folks may make a dent in illegal parking in spaces reserved for handicapped.  BUT calling the COPS will END it  I don't know how much the fines are where you live.  In Southern California, it's $250 for each violationJust call the local police department and tell them where and at what times of day these violation occur the most.

           An activist group of disabled people in Fountain Valley, CA persuaded the police to give the authority to ticket these violators to two were 2 elderly men on electric scooters whoregularly patrolled the parking lot at a Ralph's grocery store.  They got several articles (with photos) published in the Orange County Register.  And even the L.A. Times even published an article about them once.  There was great public interest in this story.  The local tv stations went out and videotaped thse guys on duty and they were the lead story ontv local news several times. These 2 men were credited with doing a great job by ticketing most violators and bring in revenue for the city .

           Before they got authority to write tickets, they had been patrolling that parking lot every day, "educating" able bodied people who used the handicapped parkin spaces...and had a great time doing it.  I'll bet they have a lot more fun issuing tickets that carry a $250 fine.

      Good luck.Picking one's "fights" carefully is veryimportant and I think you've chosen a really good one.  Yours truly, Sexy Silver Fox aka Janet Jones

       


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  • Daisies Daisies
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    • Posted: Tue, Dec 18 2007 7:11 PM

    • I usually tell them that a big car does not qualify as disability, or I write down their number and let them know that they have chosen the most expensive parking spot around.

      Daisies


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  • Wheelin Rev Wheelin Rev
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    • Posted: Tue, Dec 18 2007 11:41 PM

    • Not sure if this is applicable here, but as a PWD with the parking card, that does not allow me to use the HC spot just because I am in the car and will remain in the car. The person exiting or entering the vehicle is who the spot is for. FWIW... Wink Just another abuse I frequently see. Dave


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  • itsetc itsetc
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    • Posted: Tue, Jan 08 2008 1:34 AM

    • Hi,

      Just read your article about the ADA, and the first thing you can do, is calll the police. Write the License plate nuber down, so if they move while waitng for the police you have a head start,

      I co- wrote the ADA and I am very proud of doing this. I am the first Disabled Policeman in the State of Ga and now I have spread myself to 5 different counties. I love to write tickets and love the excused I get when I do it as the come to the a, I was wrote uo in the Newsweek about Jutice in Ga and if you have a police department,rny that would be happy to help you. all you can do is call the chief up, make the complaint to the cheif and see if you can be a patrol person, with limted powers, ONLY to write tickests and nothing else.

      Once you start to write them, don't for any reason tear the ticket up or if you can see that they are in a chair,all you got to do is tell themtoBig Smile talk them to go the State Patrols office and get a parking permit for them and this way , you help help cause I hae done that alot. Some people are ashamed of bring disabled and some have " Hidden Abilities". Those are the people that have a hard time walk or it take alot of air for them to walk a long walk. Pluse, after you do this, you will fell better about youself.

      Write to me and I would love to chat. I am the worlds youngest living case of polio ( i got it when I was 3 dyas old, and I got PPS really bad. My wife help me with a lot of suff and if it wasn't for her backing me, I probaly would be dead 25 yrs old. She has gone thru 30+ operations and is with me all the way.

      Take care and write soon.

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  • scrappywheels scrappywheels
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    • Posted: Tue, Jan 08 2008 1:57 AM

    • I had a SCI friend who had these big bright orange stickers (the kind that have to be taken off with razors once they make contact with glass) that said "THIS A$$HOLE PARKS ILLEGALLY IN HANDICAP SPOTS" and would slap them on the drivers side of the windshield when he would catch someone.  Brilliant.

      I'm a little jaded.  Maybe because out here the cops don't give a rats bum about illegal parkers, so no one ever gets ticketed so no one ever feels the need NOT to park in one, that simple calling the police has never ever ever worked for me.  The fines are steep, its just no one's enforcing them.  In Salt Lake City, many, many moons ago, a group was trying to get deputized so that they could issue tickets to illegal parkers, but the cities came up with all sorts of excuses why it wouldn't work, such as liability (someone trying to attack a person in a chair for the ticket) to the tickets being non-enforcable if not issued by a policeman, so it fell through.  In a complete irony to the ancedotes preceding, I was actually ticketed by a policeman who had nothing better to do apparently for not having a placard.  Funny how the placard was hanging on my rear view mirror when I went in to watch the movie, but had fallen off onto the DRIVER"S SEAT.  If the officer had bothered to look he would have seen it.  When I went in to see the judge, she had no choice but dismiss the ticket but had the nerve to lecture me about keeping my placard properly displayed.  Ok, now I'm just getting grouchy cause I'm tired.


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