Last post Tue, Jul 29 2008 9:03 PM by AnnieSibley. 45 replies.
i wish you all the best , just take one day at a time ...... rainey
Whitey, thank you so much for being brave enough to say THERE IS A CURE FOR RA. Since you are walking the walk you can talk the talk! Interesting that your ayurvedic doc said to stay on Methatrexate. It got my sister out of a wheelchair and since I share your philosophy about side effects being worse than the supposed cure I have been wondering just what kind of drug it is. Most people would rather not assume responsibility for their health since as you said it is a lot of hard work. You can ramble on for hours and I will only be enthralled, so please tell us more! "Without a preacher, how will they hear?"
the first thing that u should do is ask ur doc. about physical therapy n then do as he/she says;as far as giving u excerise 2 do no can do that,u will have to try n find out what u r able to stand r not stand,eat a proper diet of food,u know meat,veggies,diary,pasta,deserts,the usual food groups.
i feel 4 u,i mean it is hard enough to be 17 n this world today much less be 17 n have a disability as well,but the good thing is uYOU WILL GET THROUGH IT,it won't be easy at times but u will make it,remeber this,no matter how hard it seems to you now...it can always be worse!
i am 61 n in a wheelchair going on 5 yrs. now and believe me it is no easier because i am older it is in a lot of ways harder,cause i now have to get use to other ways of doing things.....and that is what you are going to have to do...get use to doing things in a little differant way then you would ordnairly have done it...u can still do what u would like,but it may take just a little longer but you will get there.
hope this helped you in some small way.the most important thing to remeber isJUST BE YOURSELF!!
mcjane:Whitey, thank you so much for being brave enough to say THERE IS A CURE FOR RA.
Whitey, thank you so much for being brave enough to say THERE IS A CURE FOR RA.
*sigh* No, there is not a cure for RA. This sort of thing does so much damage to people who are desperate and willing to try anything. Not only that, it forces us to blame ourselves if we suffer from these diseases and are not cured like these supposed others. It's very sad and very wrong.
"It's not just about Obama is a young black man, and McCain is an old white guy."Shelley!
As I said, Whitey was BRAVE to espouse the Health Philosophy since it opens him to the scorn of naysayers, and worse, Pharisees who stand at the gate and won't go in and prevent others from entering. A young person pleaded for help and information about diet and exercise, and a voice of experience gave her hope that you could, in DEED, combat the disease. To deny that he has achieved victory over RA is like calling him a liar, which is very rude and very wrong. Most people either romance their sickness or want to cling to their coffee & cigarettes, their dead food, and then rail against Nature for persecuting them with illness. Just as an automobile needs certain components to run properly, and you can't put oil in the gas tank or water in the engine or gas in the radiator, so the human mechanism needs vitamins, minerals, and ENZYMES which are woefully lacking in our modern diet. While the medical COMMUNITY will agree that diet plays an important role in Health, the medical INDUSTRY would not benefit from this approach. Unless doctors become farmers and charge exorbitant prices like they do for pharmaceuticals. Some people believe their opinion to be worthy of public proclamation, but unless you are speaking with a voice of EXPERIENCE, not only do you not help...you hinder.
Same crap, different day.
Wonder if McJane will bite.
Interesting pattern always ending in an insult to lure the other in.
ArizonaSherry:Same crap, different day. Wonder if McJane will bite. Interesting pattern always ending in an insult to lure the other in.
Yup, I will ALWAYS call someone on it when they tell people they want to be sick. I assume you feel the same?
Liesl:Oh, that's nice! Blame people for being sick because they are "clinging" to their illnesses. That's a whole pile of offensive crap you're selling, McJane. Hey, what would I expect from someone cynical enough to believe that the medical community, consisting of hundreds of thousands of people, are all in it for the money and keeping people sick. I'd feel sorry for you if you weren't so rabidly bitter.
Ditto.
Becky
Thanks, Becky! I can't abide it when people blame us for being sick. Who does that?!
Arizona Sherry did not blame this terrified girl for being sick, nor did McJane, nor did Whitney! ! What they said was that there are ways to deal with this illness beyond what a traditional MD may have to say, and that they have to do with diet and healthy living. Why does the same person always use the same vile invective, insinuate what is not meant, and contribute nothing to a well intentioned remark? Diet CAN help RA, no question. The fact that McJane and Whitney perhaps phrased it in a generality, linking it to a healthy lifestyle, does not mean they were attacking the sick child who was looking for help. More than a few of us ARE SICK OF THIS CRAP.
bonniethesurvivor:Arizona Sherry did not blame this terrified girl for being sick, nor did McJane. What they said was that there are ways to deal with this illness beyond what a traditional MD may have to say, and that they have to do with diet and healthy living. Why does the same person always use the same vile invective, insinuate what is not meant, and contribute nothing to a well intentioned remark? Diet CAN help RA, no question. The fact that McJane perhaps phrased it in a generality, linking it to a healthy lifestyle, does not mean she was attacking the sick child who was looking for help. More than a few of us ARE SICK OF THIS CRAP.
Arizona Sherry did not blame this terrified girl for being sick, nor did McJane. What they said was that there are ways to deal with this illness beyond what a traditional MD may have to say, and that they have to do with diet and healthy living. Why does the same person always use the same vile invective, insinuate what is not meant, and contribute nothing to a well intentioned remark? Diet CAN help RA, no question. The fact that McJane perhaps phrased it in a generality, linking it to a healthy lifestyle, does not mean she was attacking the sick child who was looking for help. More than a few of us ARE SICK OF THIS CRAP.
Then don't read my posts, Bonnie. Very, very simple solution. As for what McJane said: Most people either romance their sickness or want to cling to their coffee & cigarettes, their dead food, and then rail against Nature for persecuting them with illness.
If that's not blaming the person for being sick I don't know what is.
Parse the words but skip the meaning; one of your favorite tricks. This was said in the context of the general remarks about health, and in the flow of a statement about extreme suffering, and the reduction of that person's suffering through personal respsonsibility and action. That was Whitney's experience. If you want to continue to ignore the experience of those who HAVE taken responsibility for their diet and so on, some with success, others not, then don't read THEIR posts. My last word in this thread.
bonniethesurvivor:Parse the words but skip the meaning; one of your favorite tricks. This was said in the context of the general remarks about health, and in the flow of a statement about extreme suffering, and the reduction of that person's suffering through personal respsonsibility and action. That was Whitney's experience. If you want to continue to ignore the experience of those who HAVE taken responsibility for their diet and so on, some with success, others not, then don't read THEIR posts. My last word in this thread.
Actually, what was said was in context not only of this one post, but every other post she has made. She has made statements like this before, even admitting that people in chat were greatly offended by the things she said.
Uh oh! Bonnie's last word!
Hi, im very sorry that you have this horrible disease at such a young age. I am 37 and was diagnosed with RA at 34, and with a sever case. I couldnt even dress myself the pain was sooo great. I was taking 10 pills every Friday of methotrexate and 2 pills of prednisone everyday just to function. It did give me great comfort from the disease, but the pills were literally destroying my body and i was having reactions to the Methotrexate. At least twice a month i was in the emergency room with a bad reaction to all the medicines i was taking. I never liked to take medicine. I just want to tell you that today, i do not take any medicines and i can function very well, i hardly have any pain in my joints, i exercise, play sports and do everything i could before the horrible affliction from the RA. And the reason is because i asked my Lord Jesus Christ to take away the disease. Actually, i prayed and asked God to just make it to where i could function without taking the meds, and He did exactly what i prayed for. I was at a Christian Mens Home due to depression and my disease, and it was only when i was totally fed up with the disease that i gave it to God, i gave it to Him with 100% with my heart, and not evey two days later, i was healed, and from that day, i have never taken those horrible medicines. I am very involved with my church and God continues to keep the disease at bay. I guess i shouldve asked Him to totallly remove the disease, but i didnt, i just wanted relief from the meds, and He answered my prayers. Its like i dont have the RA anymore, but the tests from the doctors still show i have it. Really Cool huh? So, as a Christian, i plead with you to give your disease to God with all your heart, and I know He will take it from you. You just have to give it to Him. God gives us the power to heal others and ourselves, so rebuke that disease from you body in the name of Jesus everyday too. My email is berkey6969@aol.com, if you or anyone reading this wants to talk about this. HAVE A GREAT DAY AND MAY GOD BLESS YOU ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
