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Posted on: Thu, May 15 2008 10:34 AM
Posted by: Lieslmcq Posts: 2,303
Thanks, Becky! I can't abide it when people blame us for being sick. Who does that?!
Posted on: Thu, May 15 2008 10:50 AM
Posted by: bonniethesurvivor Posts: 1,117
Arizona Sherry did not blame this terrified girl for being sick, nor did McJane, nor did Whitney! ! What they said was that there are ways to deal with this illness beyond what a traditional MD may have to say, and that they have to do with diet and healthy living. Why does the same person always use the same vile invective, insinuate what is not meant, and contribute nothing to a well intentioned remark? Diet CAN help RA, no question. The fact that McJane and Whitney perhaps phrased it in a generality, linking it to a healthy lifestyle, does not mean they were attacking the sick child who was looking for help. More than a few of us ARE SICK OF THIS CRAP.
Posted on: Thu, May 15 2008 10:57 AM
bonniethesurvivor:Arizona Sherry did not blame this terrified girl for being sick, nor did McJane. What they said was that there are ways to deal with this illness beyond what a traditional MD may have to say, and that they have to do with diet and healthy living. Why does the same person always use the same vile invective, insinuate what is not meant, and contribute nothing to a well intentioned remark? Diet CAN help RA, no question. The fact that McJane perhaps phrased it in a generality, linking it to a healthy lifestyle, does not mean she was attacking the sick child who was looking for help. More than a few of us ARE SICK OF THIS CRAP.
Arizona Sherry did not blame this terrified girl for being sick, nor did McJane. What they said was that there are ways to deal with this illness beyond what a traditional MD may have to say, and that they have to do with diet and healthy living. Why does the same person always use the same vile invective, insinuate what is not meant, and contribute nothing to a well intentioned remark? Diet CAN help RA, no question. The fact that McJane perhaps phrased it in a generality, linking it to a healthy lifestyle, does not mean she was attacking the sick child who was looking for help. More than a few of us ARE SICK OF THIS CRAP.
Then don't read my posts, Bonnie. Very, very simple solution. As for what McJane said: Most people either romance their sickness or want to cling to their coffee & cigarettes, their dead food, and then rail against Nature for persecuting them with illness.
If that's not blaming the person for being sick I don't know what is.
Posted on: Thu, May 15 2008 11:07 AM
Parse the words but skip the meaning; one of your favorite tricks. This was said in the context of the general remarks about health, and in the flow of a statement about extreme suffering, and the reduction of that person's suffering through personal respsonsibility and action. That was Whitney's experience. If you want to continue to ignore the experience of those who HAVE taken responsibility for their diet and so on, some with success, others not, then don't read THEIR posts. My last word in this thread.
Posted on: Thu, May 15 2008 11:20 AM
bonniethesurvivor:Parse the words but skip the meaning; one of your favorite tricks. This was said in the context of the general remarks about health, and in the flow of a statement about extreme suffering, and the reduction of that person's suffering through personal respsonsibility and action. That was Whitney's experience. If you want to continue to ignore the experience of those who HAVE taken responsibility for their diet and so on, some with success, others not, then don't read THEIR posts. My last word in this thread.
Actually, what was said was in context not only of this one post, but every other post she has made. She has made statements like this before, even admitting that people in chat were greatly offended by the things she said.
Uh oh! Bonnie's last word!
Posted on: Thu, May 15 2008 11:45 AM
Posted by: berkley6969 Posts: 4
Hi, im very sorry that you have this horrible disease at such a young age. I am 37 and was diagnosed with RA at 34, and with a sever case. I couldnt even dress myself the pain was sooo great. I was taking 10 pills every Friday of methotrexate and 2 pills of prednisone everyday just to function. It did give me great comfort from the disease, but the pills were literally destroying my body and i was having reactions to the Methotrexate. At least twice a month i was in the emergency room with a bad reaction to all the medicines i was taking. I never liked to take medicine. I just want to tell you that today, i do not take any medicines and i can function very well, i hardly have any pain in my joints, i exercise, play sports and do everything i could before the horrible affliction from the RA. And the reason is because i asked my Lord Jesus Christ to take away the disease. Actually, i prayed and asked God to just make it to where i could function without taking the meds, and He did exactly what i prayed for. I was at a Christian Mens Home due to depression and my disease, and it was only when i was totally fed up with the disease that i gave it to God, i gave it to Him with 100% with my heart, and not evey two days later, i was healed, and from that day, i have never taken those horrible medicines. I am very involved with my church and God continues to keep the disease at bay. I guess i shouldve asked Him to totallly remove the disease, but i didnt, i just wanted relief from the meds, and He answered my prayers. Its like i dont have the RA anymore, but the tests from the doctors still show i have it. Really Cool huh? So, as a Christian, i plead with you to give your disease to God with all your heart, and I know He will take it from you. You just have to give it to Him. God gives us the power to heal others and ourselves, so rebuke that disease from you body in the name of Jesus everyday too. My email is berkey6969@aol.com, if you or anyone reading this wants to talk about this. HAVE A GREAT DAY AND MAY GOD BLESS YOU ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted on: Thu, May 15 2008 11:59 AM
Posted by: Daniel502 Posts: 431
I was diagnosed with MS at age 23, so I understand how frustrating and scary it can be to have a chronic disease at such a young age. I wish you the best and know that this is a great community for support
Posted on: Thu, May 15 2008 12:02 PM
Posted by: mcjane Posts: 588
berkley...Hallelujah and Amen! I will pray a hedge around you since you will no doubt be victimized for daring to espouse such a philosophy. If HEALTH building is the object of vehement derision, I can only imagine what the vipers will say about FAITH healing. Don't take it personal. Without a preacher, how will they hear? Those who have ears, hear. Those who have eyes, see. Let the blind lead the blind. No offense intended to the unsighted, this is a spiritual metaphor. Shalom.
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