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Re: Self-defense

Posted on: Tue, Sep 2 2008 12:40 PM

Posted by: Finetooner Posts: 496

Tim: I think I covered your concern under item #5. My maxims are not in any particular order.

Other maxims to be aware of : (1) Always consider any firearm you handle to be LOADED until checked (2) Never point a firearm at anything you don't intend to shoot. (3) Always be aware of the area behind your intended target.

Best wishes, Jeff

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Re: Self-defense

Posted on: Tue, Sep 2 2008 12:46 PM

Posted by: Becky Posts: 1,555

Tim,

To quote Will Smith, "I gotta get me one of these!" Nice "flashlight." Thanks for sharing!

Becky

Always laugh when you can. It's cheaper than medicine.....
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Re: Self-defense

Posted on: Tue, Sep 2 2008 12:53 PM

Posted by: tsh3406 Posts: 172

Firetooner,

Agreed, you and I are very familiar with what a gun will and will not do. However, I meet a lot of people who don't realize how destructive, and final if that's the right word, that pulling a trigger is. Using a gun is in my opinion the best defense. I just want everyone to realize that, unlike other methods, if you shoot some one, they are probably worm food. There's nothing more dangerous to you than pulling a gun on an attacker and not being prepared and willing to use it.

Becky,

Yeah, that's pretty much what I said when my brother showed me his. His is much cooler though, clamped to the rail of his M-4, lol...

One world, one future....

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Re: Self-defense

Posted on: Wed, Sep 3 2008 12:05 PM

Posted by: ekondo Posts: 10

The use of a weapon in a self-defense situation creates a potential tactical advantage for DISRUPTION (if the attacker has a similar or more powerful weapon, the advantage is nullified). Regardless of whether the weapon is a firearm, knife, taser, club, chemical spray, flashlight, etc, the five stages of self-defense still apply.

For example, a firearm has tremendous ability to DISRUPT an attacker, and cause him to DISENGAGE by creating his inability to continue the attack. But in order to successfully DISRUPT an attacker, is it first necessary to receive and respond to the Trigger to Act (the event which causes you to actually pull the trigger). The Trigger to Act must be preceded by Confirmation of Bad Intention (before shooting someone in self-defense you need to be convinced that they intend to cause you harm). Except in a situation of complete clarity (don't underestimate the Fog of War) Confirmation of Bad Intention is obtained by violation of the verbal boundary setting of DETER (ex. STAY BACK OR I WILL SHOOT!).

Having the conviction to follow through on the "I WILL SHOOT" is the result of the education, training, acknowledgement of responsibility, and decision to not be a victim of the DECIDE step.

Since there are significant consequences to shooting someone whether in self-defense or by accident, the DEBRIEF step is inescapable.

Therefore, regardless of whether an weapon is utilized or not, the steps of strategy of self-defense still are:

DECIDE

DETER

Confirmation of Bad Intention

DISRUPT

Trigger to Act

DISENGAGE

DEBRIEF

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Re: Self-defense

Posted on: Sun, Sep 7 2008 8:48 PM

Posted by: ekondo Posts: 10

The Four Stages of Violent Assault

The Four Stages of Violent Assault represents a model for understanding the predatory mind in stranger assault situations. The model is used to make the concepts of assault easier to comprehend and defend against.

Motivation to Commit a Crime: The predator makes the decision to commit a particular crime.

Selection of Victim: The predator actively chooses a victim for his crime.

- A common part of this stage is the interview process where the predator interacts with a potential victim to determine suitability for attack.

- This stage is foiled by the DECIDE & DETER step of self-defense.

Physical Assault: The predator initiates a physical attack on the victim.

- The physical attack requires the opportunity to attack in the form of close proximity to the target.

- This stage is foiled by the DETER & DISRUPT step of self-defense.

Completion of the Crime: The physical attack enables the predator to complete the crime originally planned and/or additional crimes of opportunity.

-This stage is foiled by the DISRUPT & DISENGAGE step of self-defense.

Every situation of assault is different. The above model is a flexible guide intended to provide insight into the mind of a predator and how the self-defense steps of DECIDE DETER DISRUPT DISENGAGE may be used to foil the predator during each stage of the assault.

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Re: Self-defense

Posted on: Sun, Sep 7 2008 8:50 PM

Posted by: ekondo Posts: 10

The Four Stages of Violent Assault

The Four Stages of Violent Assault represents a model for understanding the predatory mind in stranger assault situations. The model is used to make the concepts of assault easier to comprehend and defend against.

Motivation to Commit a Crime: The predator makes the decision to commit a particular crime.

Selection of Victim: The predator actively chooses a victim for his crime.

- A common part of this stage is the "interview process" where the predator interacts with a potential victim to determine suitability for attack.

- This stage is foiled by the DECIDE & DETER step of self-defense.

Physical Assault: The predator initiates a physical attack on the victim.

- The physical attack requires the opportunity to attack in the form of close proximity to the target.

- This stage is foiled by the DETER & DISRUPT step of self-defense.

Completion of the Crime: The physical attack enables the predator to complete the crime originally planned and/or additional crimes of opportunity.

-This stage is foiled by the DISRUPT & DISENGAGE step of self-defense.

Every situation of assault is different. The above model is a flexible guide intended to provide insight into the mind of a predator and how self-defense steps may be used to foil the predator during each stage of the assault.

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Re: Self-defense

Posted on: Tue, Sep 9 2008 10:38 PM

Posted by: ekondo Posts: 10

A true story.

"John" is a complete T7 paraplegic". His sister tells us the story.

He was waiting at a bus stop to get to the doctors, (we lived in Long Beach at the time) and from what he has told me a group of guys started making jokes and hassling him. He just ignored it, because ya know, why bother with those kinds of people? One of the guys must have gotten mad or something that my brother wasn't responding, so he walked up to him and pushed him out of his chair from behind. He almost landed in the street. The guy started kicking him and grabbed his wallet, calling him an "F-ing cripple" and much worse things. My brother was trying to grab his feet but he couldn't because he had landed face first, really. That's when the old lady started screaming and whacking on the mugger with her purse. The group of guys and mugger took off running because she had attracted a lot of attention.

My brother gave a police report and was taken to the hospital for 3 broken ribs. None of the people who saw this happening (there were about 10 people at the bus stop) did anything except the little old lady.

Three of the Four Stages of Violent Assault are outlined below:

- a group of guys started making jokes and hassling him (Selection of Victim)
- he walked up to him [victim] and pushed him out of his chair from behind (Physical Attack)

- the guy started kicking him and grabbed his wallet... the group of guys and mugger took off running (Completion of the Crime)

The Five Stages of Self-Defense are outlined below:

- None of the people who saw this happening (there were about 10 people at the bus stop) did anything except the little old lady
- why bother with those kinds of people? (Understanding the DECIDE stage reveals why this type of response is typical behavior, and the importance of having a pre-formed plan of action)

- my brother wasn't responding (The DETER stage is designed to prevent and repel aggression)

- old lady started screaming and whacking on the mugger with her purse ... she had attracted a lot of attention (The DISRUPT stage is any action intended to disrupt the attacker)

- The group of guys and mugger took off running (The DISENGAGE stage is initiated by the attacker due to his fear of discovery)

- My brother gave a police report and was taken to the hospital for 3 broken ribs (The DEBRIEF stage is the aftermath of the assault)

COMMENTS:

The purpose of relating and analyzing this story is to learn, not to judge. With the benefit of hindsight we are able to see what did not work, what did work, and formulate opinions on what may have worked.

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