Disability Activism & Advocacy

Posted on: Thu, Aug 21 2008 1:47 PM

Posted by: Walter Schmidt, VSO CPA CTM Posts: 229

Joel:

I know he is half muslim.... How do we know he doesnt wanna take it over for iraq?

JFK was 100% Catholic. How did we know he didn't want to take it over for the Pope?

p.s. Obama is NOT Muslim, he is Christian.

p.p.s McCain is (?) Irish. How do we know he doesn't want to take it over for Ireland?

Posted on: Thu, Aug 21 2008 2:03 PM

Posted by: Don Posts: 7

 You are so typical your feelings are hurt when people point out the truth, too bad so sad if you really care listen to Bill Cosby and the Reverend Jesse Lee Peterson I know they are all House Negroes for the Republicans right? Unlike you I lived with these folks for over 20 years and have even been to Africa where in Kenya American blacks were not well received whose fault is that? I myself have been in a bi racial marriage for over 30 years but people like you who want to condemn all who point out the truth are what is wrong with this country today when I was a kid there was NO such thing as Homeless they were called BUMs and the world was a much better place. Im glad you feel sorry for me would you like some cheese to go with your whine?

Posted on: Thu, Aug 21 2008 2:11 PM

Posted by: Lieslmcq Posts: 2,303

Joel:

I know he is half muslim. Yes this had been confirmed. His dad is muslim. How do we know he doesnt wanna take it over for iraq?

I'm going to assume you're kidding. 

Posted on: Thu, Aug 21 2008 2:14 PM

Posted by: Lieslmcq Posts: 2,303

Don:

 You are so typical your feelings are hurt when people point out the truth, too bad so sad if you really care listen to Bill Cosby and the Reverend Jesse Lee Peterson I know they are all House Negroes for the Republicans right? Unlike you I lived with these folks for over 20 years and have even been to Africa where in Kenya American blacks were not well received whose fault is that? I myself have been in a bi racial marriage for over 30 years but people like you who want to condemn all who point out the truth are what is wrong with this country today when I was a kid there was NO such thing as Homeless they were called BUMs and the world was a much better place. Im glad you feel sorry for me would you like some cheese to go with your whine?

Um, I was not the one whining, dear. You are the one spewing hatred and ignorance and LYING. Actually, I don't feel pity for you; I feel disgust. 

Posted on: Thu, Aug 21 2008 3:19 PM

Posted by: PerfectlyImperfect Posts: 872

Joel:

I know he is half muslim. Yes this had been confirmed. His dad is muslim. How do we know he doesnt wanna take it over for iraq?

You're correct, his father was Muslim. However, that does NOT make him Muslim by association or anything like that. I'll put it this way: A Christian and an Athiest have a child. Is the child an Athiest simply because their parent was? No. Could that child possibly choose they don't believe in God like their parent did? Yes. But nothing says they MUST believe that. Make sense?

As we become adults we have the free will and liberty to choose our OWN religion(if you so choose one at all) Just because someone's parent is something, does NOT make them that. They may CHOOSE to follow that religious path, but they don't HAVE to.

This is one of my biggest pet peeves when people discuss Obama. The fact I don't plan on voting for him is irrelevant. I just don't buy the fact he is some secret Muslim wanting to turn our country over to the terrorists.

Posted on: Thu, Aug 21 2008 4:35 PM

Posted by: Nightengale Posts: 686

1) Barack Obama is not Muslim.  He makes speeches all the time referencing his church and religious beliefs. 

2)  Why would it matter if he were Muslim?  Isn't it more important that he believes in the separation of Church and State and is not going to impose his religious beliefs on the rest of us?   I guess it's different for me - as I am a religious minority I don't feel strongly that our president should be of the religous majority.  It's more important to me that our president isn't going to in any way impinge on my freedom of religion (or freedom from religion)

Posted on: Thu, Aug 21 2008 10:29 PM

Posted by: shellGVchick Posts: 1,261

I agree 100% with Nightengale.    He is not a Muslim and he's spoken about wanting not to be labeled into that catagory. I get tired of people just classifying some one into this class or that and assuming.  If you take the time to do research, educate yourself and find out the facts, then those labels don't exist.

Barack  Obama was born Aug. 4, 1961, in Honolulu, Hawaii. His father, Barack Obama, Sr., was born of Luo ethnicity in Nyanza Province, Kenya. He grew up herding goats with his own father, who was a domestic servant to the British. Although reared among Muslims, Obama, Sr., became an atheist at some point.

Obama’s mother, Ann Dunham, grew up in Wichita, Kansas. Her father worked on oil rigs during the Depression. After the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, he signed up for service in World War II and marched across Europe in Patton’s army. Dunham’s mother went to work on a bomber assembly line. After the war, they studied on the G. I. Bill, bought a house through the Federal Housing Program, and moved to Hawaii.

Meantime, Barack’s father had won a scholarship that allowed him to leave Kenya pursue his dreams in Hawaii. At the time of his birth, Obama’s parents were students at the East–West Center of the University of Hawaii at Manoa.

Obama’s parents separated when he was two years old and later divorced. Obama’s father went to Harvard to pursue Ph. D. studies and then returned to Kenya.

His mother married Lolo Soetoro, another East–West Center student from Indonesia. In 1967, the family moved to Jakarta, where Obama’s half-sister Maya Soetoro–Ng was born. Obama attended schools in Jakarta, where classes were taught in the Indonesian language.

Four years later when Barack (commonly known throughout his early years as "Barry") was ten, he returned to Hawaii to live with his maternal grandparents, Madelyn and Stanley Dunham, and later his mother (who died of ovarian cancer in 1995).

He was enrolled in the fifth grade at the esteemed Punahou Academy, graduating with honors in 1979. He was only one of three black students at the school. This is where Obama first became conscious of racism and what it meant to be an African–American.

In his memoir, Obama described how he struggled to reconcile social perceptions of his multiracial heritage. He saw his biological father (who died in a 1982 car accident) only once (in 1971) after his parents divorced. And he admitted using alcohol, marijuana and cocaine during his teenage years.

After high school, Obama studied at Occidental College in Los Angeles for two years. He then transferred to Columbia University in New York, graduating in 1983 with a degree in political science.

Posted on: Thu, Aug 21 2008 10:43 PM

Posted by: shellGVchick Posts: 1,261

FYI: You can only be president if you were born in the United States.

Kenya is in South Africa.       Jakarta is the Capital of Indonesia.

They have nothing to do with Iraq, Iran, Saddam Hussein, Osama Bin Laden, 9/11 etc. etc. etc.